Comments on: Women laughing alone (and on TV and in the movies) with salad http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/ Wed, 05 Jun 2013 08:05:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Ehliyet Sınav Sonuçları http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-5631 Ehliyet Sınav Sonuçları Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:32:16 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-5631 excellent points altogether, you simply received a new reader. What may you recommend in regards to your publish that you made some days ago? Any certain? excellent points altogether, you simply received a new reader. What may you recommend in regards to your publish that you made some days ago? Any certain?

]]> By: Magdalena http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2838 Magdalena Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:42:31 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2838 Oh man, thank you for linking that article. It's BRILLIANT and had me laughing out loud! Love Mindy Kaling! Oh man, thank you for linking that article. It’s BRILLIANT and had me laughing out loud! Love Mindy Kaling!

]]> By: Magdalena http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2803 Magdalena Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:40:27 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2803 Hey, thanks for your feedback. My problem with that scene was that Lowe's character was based in a certain stereotype of a jerk—a stereotype we've all seen before—and it startled me to see that this stereotypical man was now supposed to be against CHICKEN. If he'd suggested the salad as opposed to, say, a burger, I wouldn't have paid it any notice, because he is supposed to be a jerk, after all. But to say that she couldn't even add chicken to her lettuce was alarming, because it was lower than I'd expect even from a cardboard stereotype—even diet mags aren't so restrictive. I wasn't objecting to the character's behavior, but to the idea that "chicken will make you fat" is an opinion that a shallow man might have. To me, it just illustrated that "acceptable" women's choices are becoming increasingly limited. I hope that helps clarify my point. Hey, thanks for your feedback. My problem with that scene was that Lowe’s character was based in a certain stereotype of a jerk—a stereotype we’ve all seen before—and it startled me to see that this stereotypical man was now supposed to be against CHICKEN. If he’d suggested the salad as opposed to, say, a burger, I wouldn’t have paid it any notice, because he is supposed to be a jerk, after all. But to say that she couldn’t even add chicken to her lettuce was alarming, because it was lower than I’d expect even from a cardboard stereotype—even diet mags aren’t so restrictive. I wasn’t objecting to the character’s behavior, but to the idea that “chicken will make you fat” is an opinion that a shallow man might have. To me, it just illustrated that “acceptable” women’s choices are becoming increasingly limited. I hope that helps clarify my point.

]]> By: Moe http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2797 Moe Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:44:57 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2797 I must watch different shows because it seems like women are always eating ice cream and soup. I must watch different shows because it seems like women are always eating ice cream and soup.

]]> By: kaedence http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2794 kaedence Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:22:18 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2794 I somewhat agree with David Fanning's post but think that in general, it misses the point. Even if a character is supposed to be healthy, there are other healthy options beyond salads. I have almost never seen a thin friend order a salad. Thin people enjoy nutritional variety. As far as skinny chick eating a burger, check out Mindy Kaling's hilarious post entitled "Flick Chicks" in which she explores female characters that rarely exist anywhere beyond romantic comedies... "The Skinny Woman Who Is Beautiful and Toned but Also Gluttonous and Disgusting "Again, I am more than willing to suspend my disbelief for good set decoration alone. One pristine kitchen from a Nancy Meyers movie like “It’s Complicated” compensates for five scenes of Diane Keaton being caught half naked in a topiary. But I can’t suspend disbelief enough, for instance, if the gorgeous and skinny heroine is also a ravenous pig when it comes to food. And everyone in the movie—her parents, her friends, her boss—are all complicit in this huge lie. They constantly tell her to stop eating. And this actress, this poor skinny actress who obviously lost weight to play the likable lead character, has to say things like “Shut up, you guys! I love cheesecake! If I want to eat an entire cheesecake, I will!” If you look closely, you can see this woman’s ribs through the dress she’s wearing—that’s how skinny she is, this cheesecake-loving cow." Read more http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2011/10/03/111003sh_shouts_kaling#ixzz1cNCR6Sn4 I somewhat agree with David Fanning’s post but think that in general, it misses the point. Even if a character is supposed to be healthy, there are other healthy options beyond salads. I have almost never seen a thin friend order a salad. Thin people enjoy nutritional variety. As far as skinny chick eating a burger, check out Mindy Kaling’s hilarious post entitled “Flick Chicks” in which she explores female characters that rarely exist anywhere beyond romantic comedies…

“The Skinny Woman Who Is Beautiful and Toned but Also Gluttonous and Disgusting

“Again, I am more than willing to suspend my disbelief for good set decoration alone. One pristine kitchen from a Nancy Meyers movie like “It’s Complicated” compensates for five scenes of Diane Keaton being caught half naked in a topiary. But I can’t suspend disbelief enough, for instance, if the gorgeous and skinny heroine is also a ravenous pig when it comes to food. And everyone in the movie—her parents, her friends, her boss—are all complicit in this huge lie. They constantly tell her to stop eating. And this actress, this poor skinny actress who obviously lost weight to play the likable lead character, has to say things like “Shut up, you guys! I love cheesecake! If I want to eat an entire cheesecake, I will!” If you look closely, you can see this woman’s ribs through the dress she’s wearing—that’s how skinny she is, this cheesecake-loving cow.”

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2011/10/03/111003sh_shouts_kaling#ixzz1cNCR6Sn4

]]> By: Jackie http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2762 Jackie Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:26:02 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2762 You mean ridiculous, like the infamous Paris Hilton eating a giant Carl's Jr. Burger ad? You mean ridiculous, like the infamous Paris Hilton eating a giant Carl’s Jr. Burger ad?

]]> By: David Fanning http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2673 David Fanning Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:16:50 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2673 To be fair, most of the women that appear on TV are unrealistically thin. So to have a scene where one of the aforementioned waif starts tucking into a burger and fries, it would look just as ridiculous. So I suspect the problem of the stereotype goes deeper than her dinner. It's as deep as the fact that actors need to have perfect (or thinner) bodies to get the job in the first place. Still, it is funny to see how many pics you find when you do a Google Image search for woman + salad + laughing. To be fair, most of the women that appear on TV are unrealistically thin. So to have a scene where one of the aforementioned waif starts tucking into a burger and fries, it would look just as ridiculous. So I suspect the problem of the stereotype goes deeper than her dinner. It’s as deep as the fact that actors need to have perfect (or thinner) bodies to get the job in the first place.

Still, it is funny to see how many pics you find when you do a Google Image search for woman + salad + laughing.

]]> By: Claire http://www.about-face.org/women-laughing-alone-and-on-tv-and-in-the-movies-with-salad/#comment-2670 Claire Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:25:42 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=8984#comment-2670 I'm not sure if you watched all of the Invention of Lying, but it's a comedy. It's a joke that he tells her not to get the chicken, because thatISridiculous. The movie is mocking someone so shallow and paternalistic as to tell a woman what to eat. He is a jerk. Why is she on a date with him? It's explained in the movie, a few times. It's part of the overarching point of the movie in the end. I agree with you on the weird enforcement of women eating salads (Why don't men eat more salads? How did it become a "girlie" food, anyway?) but spending half of this post on a misunderstanding of a scene in a movie takes from the point. I’m not sure if you watched all of the Invention of Lying, but it’s a comedy. It’s a joke that he tells her not to get the chicken, because thatISridiculous. The movie is mocking someone so shallow and paternalistic as to tell a woman what to eat. He is a jerk. Why is she on a date with him? It’s explained in the movie, a few times. It’s part of the overarching point of the movie in the end.

I agree with you on the weird enforcement of women eating salads (Why don’t men eat more salads? How did it become a “girlie” food, anyway?) but spending half of this post on a misunderstanding of a scene in a movie takes from the point.

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