Comments on: Total “Eclipse” of the heart or suffocating “Twilight” triangle? http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/ Sat, 18 May 2013 13:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: iiona http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1135 iiona Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:44:54 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1135 I am a Twilight fan and I kind of noticed the subtle hints at an abusive relationship between the 3. I do believe it is that type of thing that sells, sex, violence, drugs and games... Sad but true... I am a Twilight fan and I kind of noticed the subtle hints at an abusive relationship between the 3. I do believe it is that type of thing that sells, sex, violence, drugs and games… Sad but true…

]]> By: CeeJay http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1134 CeeJay Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:44:13 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1134 Couldn't agree more. I've discouraged my sister an sister in law from allowing my neices to read these books as I think they promote negative behaviour in teenage girls. By making it ok that "Bella" is bruised after a night with Edward we're putting it in their minds that it's ok to get physically hurt as long as he loves her. And do not get me started about the 6 month depression over the teenage romance and the sucidal behaviour to get his attention... Couldn’t agree more. I’ve discouraged my sister an sister in law from allowing my neices to read these books as I think they promote negative behaviour in teenage girls. By making it ok that “Bella” is bruised after a night with Edward we’re putting it in their minds that it’s ok to get physically hurt as long as he loves her. And do not get me started about the 6 month depression over the teenage romance and the sucidal behaviour to get his attention…

]]> By: Lynn Kristle http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1133 Lynn Kristle Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:21:38 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1133 Didn't even notice that there were borderline abusive tendencies in their "love triangle." Eh, I'm probably not good at recognizing them because I got good and stuck in one abusive relationship and didn't figure it out until it was too late... Anyway, I think their dialouge and extreme love are unrealistic, too. But... I'm still a Twilight fan! And I'm on team Jacob! Didn’t even notice that there were borderline abusive tendencies in their “love triangle.” Eh, I’m probably not good at recognizing them because I got good and stuck in one abusive relationship and didn’t figure it out until it was too late…

Anyway, I think their dialouge and extreme love are unrealistic, too. But… I’m still a Twilight fan! And I’m on team Jacob!

]]> By: Sonia http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1132 Sonia Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:24:08 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1132 I failed to say that it actually also promotes bad male gender roles I failed to say that it actually also promotes bad male gender roles

]]> By: Sonia http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1131 Sonia Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:19:02 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1131 Well first of all I think that twilight is a really really BAD book, bad writing and character construction. really crappy for my taste, its ok if some people like it I dont have anything against it. And in fact, the ideal love in the saga it is abusive, I dont think is wrong to analyze what we read and receive from the media, is not as if you read or see twilight you are going to embrace this idea, is nothing like that at all but it influence the way we construct our idea of reality, and what is natural about gender roles, so in that sense it sends a wrong message about relationships and women gender roles (damsel in distress always) that you analyze something it doesn't mean that you cant enjoy it. In the other hand I Think that this has brought a positive effect, some people might be introduce to the world of books! and thats great! more people reading, if some of this new reader continue to read more and more there is a higher chance that we get a more critical and not so easy to trick society. Well first of all I think that twilight is a really really BAD book, bad writing and character construction. really crappy for my taste, its ok if some people like it I dont have anything against it.

And in fact, the ideal love in the saga it is abusive, I dont think is wrong to analyze what we read and receive from the media, is not as if you read or see twilight you are going to embrace this idea, is nothing like that at all but it influence the way we construct our idea of reality, and what is natural about gender roles, so in that sense it sends a wrong message about relationships and women gender roles (damsel in distress always) that you analyze something it doesn’t mean that you cant enjoy it.

In the other hand I Think that this has brought a positive effect, some people might be introduce to the world of books! and thats great! more people reading, if some of this new reader continue to read more and more there is a higher chance that we get a more critical and not so easy to trick society.

]]> By: Musya http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1130 Musya Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:57:18 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1130 I think we all agree that Bella has a lot on her mind and the heart of the story is her having to make this very dramatic, life altering decision. We all love the story - I dont think the point was that Bella isnt smiling and she should given the male attention - the writer clearly states its Kristen Stewart, the actress, that should be smiling more - a play on her consistently sour expression for the paparazzi. And on the topic of Twilight promoting abusive relationships, it's an extremely interesting subject given how women of all ages have embraced and become obsessed with the books and movies given the very blatant signals that yes, in fact Bella is caught between two men that are emotionally abusing her - the proof is in every feminist discussion on the topic online and Current.com even has a handy checklist - http://current.com/entertainment/movies/91544310_twilight-promoting-abusive-relationships-and-female-submission.htm. As women of any age and generation - we have to stop and consider what this means - how did we all fall in love with a story where the main character is controlled emotionally, mentally and physically by a man... and comes back for more over and over again. I think we all agree that Bella has a lot on her mind and the heart of the story is her having to make this very dramatic, life altering decision. We all love the story – I dont think the point was that Bella isnt smiling and she should given the male attention – the writer clearly states its Kristen Stewart, the actress, that should be smiling more – a play on her consistently sour expression for the paparazzi.

And on the topic of Twilight promoting abusive relationships, it’s an extremely interesting subject given how women of all ages have embraced and become obsessed with the books and movies given the very blatant signals that yes, in fact Bella is caught between two men that are emotionally abusing her – the proof is in every feminist discussion on the topic online and Current.com even has a handy checklist – http://current.com/entertainment/movies/91544310_twilight-promoting-abusive-relationships-and-female-submission.htm. As women of any age and generation – we have to stop and consider what this means – how did we all fall in love with a story where the main character is controlled emotionally, mentally and physically by a man… and comes back for more over and over again.

]]> By: ej http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1129 ej Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:42:13 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1129 Nidhi, I could not agree more. Nidhi, I could not agree more.

]]> By: Nidhi http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1128 Nidhi Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:46:05 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1128 As an old fan of the books (I can't call myself a twi-hard as I haven't read them in quite some time), I still find myself completely enraged when people pass judgements about Twilight without thinking them through. I mean no offense whatsoever, as your claims have truth to them, but "you'd think that'd be enough to get Bella to smile once in a while"? It's not just a love triangle between two hot guys. It's a choice she has to make that could drastically affect (possibly even end - face it, she could be killed at any time with Edward) her life and even that of those around her. Think about it, She loves Edward but choosing him would mean eventually leaving behind her whole family and any chance of a normal life. She could choose Jacob which, as he says, would be so easy but isn't what she really wants. On top of that: the fact that she really has no choice but to become a vampire (the volturi, remember?), worrying that her dad could be killed because of her, and the idea that she causes Edward and his family pain just by being around them. That's enough to make a girl pretty stressed. True, she does accept all of this as her life, but it's still a lot to deal with. Hot guys don't make everything OK. As an old fan of the books (I can’t call myself a twi-hard as I haven’t read them in quite some time), I still find myself completely enraged when people pass judgements about Twilight without thinking them through. I mean no offense whatsoever, as your claims have truth to them, but “you’d think that’d be enough to get Bella to smile once in a while”? It’s not just a love triangle between two hot guys. It’s a choice she has to make that could drastically affect (possibly even end – face it, she could be killed at any time with Edward) her life and even that of those around her. Think about it, She loves Edward but choosing him would mean eventually leaving behind her whole family and any chance of a normal life. She could choose Jacob which, as he says, would be so easy but isn’t what she really wants. On top of that: the fact that she really has no choice but to become a vampire (the volturi, remember?), worrying that her dad could be killed because of her, and the idea that she causes Edward and his family pain just by being around them.

That’s enough to make a girl pretty stressed. True, she does accept all of this as her life, but it’s still a lot to deal with.
Hot guys don’t make everything OK.

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]]> By: ej http://www.about-face.org/total-eclipse-of-the-heart-or-suffocating-twilight-triangle/#comment-1126 ej Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:06:23 +0000 http://about-face.org/blog/?p=3513#comment-1126 I couldn't agree more and i am on Team Jacob btw. Awesome article. I couldn’t agree more and i am on Team Jacob btw. Awesome article.

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