Comments on: PETA – People for the Egregious Treatment of Adult (Women) http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/ Wed, 05 Jun 2013 08:05:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Pro-animal, anti-peta http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-97261 Pro-animal, anti-peta Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:47:40 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-97261 peta = Profoundly Egregious Thugs for Animals peta = Profoundly Egregious Thugs for Animals

]]> By: Rose http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-95745 Rose Sun, 03 Feb 2013 23:55:30 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-95745 Fuck you PETA. I'm a vegan because I CARE ABOUT (human and non-human) ANIMALS. The fact that I have amazing sex is irrelevant. ;) This company is fucking disgusting scum. Fuck you PETA. I’m a vegan because I CARE ABOUT (human and non-human) ANIMALS. The fact that I have amazing sex is irrelevant. ;)

This company is fucking disgusting scum.

]]> By: Nelson http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-69967 Nelson Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:33:13 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-69967 The female models are doing this work willingly. PETA doesn't diminish the importance and value in how people view the human body; they're using naked women in furs for shock value; to get attention. PETA does so much good work that I think it's OK if they use some shocking ads to try to get their message across. The female models are doing this work willingly. PETA doesn’t diminish the importance and value in how people view the human body; they’re using naked women in furs for shock value; to get attention. PETA does so much good work that I think it’s OK if they use some shocking ads to try to get their message across.

]]> By: erika http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-67786 erika Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:55:37 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-67786 There is a big difference between a woman being sexual and being sexualized. There is a big difference between a woman being sexual and being sexualized.

]]> By: Sean http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-66899 Sean Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:52:17 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-66899 I hate to be contrary and off point but i must disagree with you when you said "Women should never be sexualized as a means of promoting any product, service, or lifestyle. Period." what about sexual products surely sexualizing individuals including women is appropriate in advertisements for those products I hate to be contrary and off point but i must disagree with you when you said “Women should never be sexualized as a means of promoting any product, service, or lifestyle. Period.” what about sexual products surely sexualizing individuals including women is appropriate in advertisements for those products

]]> By: Daniella http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-60329 Daniella Fri, 07 Dec 2012 02:20:54 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-60329 That's just it though, Monica. There are double standards when it comes to women and men, especially when it comes to sex. That’s just it though, Monica. There are double standards when it comes to women and men, especially when it comes to sex.

]]> By: Monica http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-55835 Monica Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:36:37 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-55835 While I understand where this point could come from, and do agree with certain parts, the part I don't agree with is the ”viciously assaulted her”. There are people who enjoy rough sex. I've ended up in ace bandages many times, or where its hurt to walk the next day. I get that ”veganism leads to better sex”, but better sex could mean different sex. If it was a guy instead of a girl for the same ad, it wouldn't matter. In fact, more people, or at least men would try and convince their girlfriends, to go vegan. While I understand where this point could come from, and do agree with certain parts, the part I don’t agree with is the ”viciously assaulted her”. There are people who enjoy rough sex. I’ve ended up in ace bandages many times, or where its hurt to walk the next day. I get that ”veganism leads to better sex”, but better sex could mean different sex. If it was a guy instead of a girl for the same ad, it wouldn’t matter. In fact, more people, or at least men would try and convince their girlfriends, to go vegan.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-13970 Amanda Sat, 12 May 2012 18:32:18 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-13970 I agree with Jane. I can see how this ad seems like it's promoting violence, but it was only one in a series of ads about "my boyfriend went vegan" (I can see how you cherry picked the only one that seems to condone violence). It's clear that all of the ads involve consensual sex, though. I trust that you accept that, while violent sex is not necessary for pleasure or acceptable to force on someone, everyone has the right to have that kind of sex if they enjoy it? Or are you going to imply that all women who claim to like painful sex, like all women who claim to enjoy sexualizing their bodies in public, have been brainwashed and should be prevented from exercising such desires? As for the nudity, I agree with PETA that there is nothing wrong with it at all. I don't want to sexualize myself, but if other women feel that it enriches their lives to do so to raise awareness about animals, more power to them. And the vegetable thing... most of your criticism involves a literal interpretation of women being attracted to vegetables--really??? Do you honestly believe that this was meant to be interpreted literally and not just a way to poke at the topic of sex and attract attention? BTW the reason for ALL of these sexualized ads is so that they can reach a more mainstream audience than feminist women, who are by and large already more likely to be vegan but involve a minuscule portion of the population. The same is probably true of feminist organizations. Some of them may staff vegans, may even be run by vegans, but they are unlikely to serve all-vegan food at their events because they don't want to turn off the vast majority of the population, who are not vegan. Besides, vegans--again--are already more likely to be sympathetic to feminism than meat-eaters. And I must say, torturing and killing animals just for the pleasure of eating them is a little bit worse than allowing women to volunteer for something that they find fulfilling, but may reinforce a negative societal ideal. Besides, even if they are not consciously weighing the pros and cons of different issues, yes, PETA is sexist... because they are a product of a sexist society. And yes, feminist organizations exploit animals--because they are a product of a society that socially sanctions the exploitation of animals. And in both cases, I think the issue should be addressed by recognizing the work that they have done, and positively educating them about why it is wrong. If you don't care about animal rights at all, or if your activism/education is always negative... then yeah, you're going to have trouble with this concept. You're also going to have trouble influencing the enemy you've created. I agree with Jane. I can see how this ad seems like it’s promoting violence, but it was only one in a series of ads about “my boyfriend went vegan” (I can see how you cherry picked the only one that seems to condone violence). It’s clear that all of the ads involve consensual sex, though. I trust that you accept that, while violent sex is not necessary for pleasure or acceptable to force on someone, everyone has the right to have that kind of sex if they enjoy it? Or are you going to imply that all women who claim to like painful sex, like all women who claim to enjoy sexualizing their bodies in public, have been brainwashed and should be prevented from exercising such desires?

As for the nudity, I agree with PETA that there is nothing wrong with it at all. I don’t want to sexualize myself, but if other women feel that it enriches their lives to do so to raise awareness about animals, more power to them.

And the vegetable thing… most of your criticism involves a literal interpretation of women being attracted to vegetables–really??? Do you honestly believe that this was meant to be interpreted literally and not just a way to poke at the topic of sex and attract attention?

BTW the reason for ALL of these sexualized ads is so that they can reach a more mainstream audience than feminist women, who are by and large already more likely to be vegan but involve a minuscule portion of the population. The same is probably true of feminist organizations. Some of them may staff vegans, may even be run by vegans, but they are unlikely to serve all-vegan food at their events because they don’t want to turn off the vast majority of the population, who are not vegan. Besides, vegans–again–are already more likely to be sympathetic to feminism than meat-eaters. And I must say, torturing and killing animals just for the pleasure of eating them is a little bit worse than allowing women to volunteer for something that they find fulfilling, but may reinforce a negative societal ideal.

Besides, even if they are not consciously weighing the pros and cons of different issues, yes, PETA is sexist… because they are a product of a sexist society. And yes, feminist organizations exploit animals–because they are a product of a society that socially sanctions the exploitation of animals. And in both cases, I think the issue should be addressed by recognizing the work that they have done, and positively educating them about why it is wrong. If you don’t care about animal rights at all, or if your activism/education is always negative… then yeah, you’re going to have trouble with this concept. You’re also going to have trouble influencing the enemy you’ve created.

]]> By: Denise http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-13350 Denise Wed, 02 May 2012 21:34:56 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-13350 I'm thoroughly disgusted with PETA! They treat people like crap, especially women, in order to spread their "message". They make fun of fat people, especially - once again - women, they act as if beating up on a woman (yeah, they call it "sex") is funny and we should all be laughing our heads off about it. They act as if they're soooo concerned about cruelty to animals. Yet I find myself wondering, how can they even say they care one wit about animals when they obviously don't give a shit about their fellow humans? And the sad part is? This organization is run by WOMEN! Who do they think they're trying to kid? By sitting there and trashing groups of people, they run the risk of losing more support for their so-called "noble" message of espousing vegetarianism/veganism. There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating vegetarian or vegan - I've done it myself, and still working on getting back up to full-time - and I'm fat! So much for the idea that fat people will eat anything that moves! What bothers me is that this woman who runs PETA thinks nothing of denigrating people just to get her point across, when there's so many women (and now men) who struggle with hatred for their body because they don't look like a magazine cover. I won't support PETA for the way they treat people - no matter who they are and what they may look like - and I would rather support ACTUAL groups that help animals (i.e. Sierra Club, World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, Humane Society, etc.) AND I will still eat at least mostly vegetarian because I care about cruelty to animals, NOT because I care about my waistline! I’m thoroughly disgusted with PETA! They treat people like crap, especially women, in order to spread their “message”. They make fun of fat people, especially – once again – women, they act as if beating up on a woman (yeah, they call it “sex”) is funny and we should all be laughing our heads off about it. They act as if they’re soooo concerned about cruelty to animals. Yet I find myself wondering, how can they even say they care one wit about animals when they obviously don’t give a shit about their fellow humans? And the sad part is? This organization is run by WOMEN! Who do they think they’re trying to kid? By sitting there and trashing groups of people, they run the risk of losing more support for their so-called “noble” message of espousing vegetarianism/veganism. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with eating vegetarian or vegan – I’ve done it myself, and still working on getting back up to full-time – and I’m fat! So much for the idea that fat people will eat anything that moves! What bothers me is that this woman who runs PETA thinks nothing of denigrating people just to get her point across, when there’s so many women (and now men) who struggle with hatred for their body because they don’t look like a magazine cover. I won’t support PETA for the way they treat people – no matter who they are and what they may look like – and I would rather support ACTUAL groups that help animals (i.e. Sierra Club, World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, Humane Society, etc.) AND I will still eat at least mostly vegetarian because I care about cruelty to animals, NOT because I care about my waistline!

]]> By: Jenjennijennifer http://www.about-face.org/peta-people-for-the-egregious-treatment-of-adult-women/#comment-13260 Jenjennijennifer Tue, 01 May 2012 18:32:16 +0000 http://www.about-face.org/?p=10160#comment-13260 Jane -- there are MANY issues to get upset about, big and small. Why not write about this? This is an example. Of course it won't make you want to beat up women, but it is a signifier that sexual violence is OK and we need to eradicate that from our culture, don't you think? The sex doesn't *exactly* read as consensual, it reads as harmful. Jane — there are MANY issues to get upset about, big and small. Why not write about this? This is an example. Of course it won’t make you want to beat up women, but it is a signifier that sexual violence is OK and we need to eradicate that from our culture, don’t you think? The sex doesn’t *exactly* read as consensual, it reads as harmful.

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