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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/for-the-love-of-girls/#comment-91225</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree with this statement , &quot; Females in our society are so conditioned to attempt to fit a paradigm of perfection and are assaulted by an echo chamber of “not good enough” on a regular basis. To see a series put forth the messy parts of being a young adult, unformed and ambivalent, is pretty revolutionary.&quot; 

I do admit this is NOT a show for everyone. My husband, for example, finds it uncomfortable to watch and overly dramatic. I have a few girlfriends who think it&#039;s a bit too &quot;raunchy.&quot; 
However, what it does provide is a FRESH perspective. I was a huge fan of Sex and the City for it&#039;s fun, glamour and focus on both romantic and female friendship. But as a 30 year-old woman who has lived and worked in NY I think Girls is tapping into realism regarding the common female plight few if any other shows have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with this statement , &#8221; Females in our society are so conditioned to attempt to fit a paradigm of perfection and are assaulted by an echo chamber of “not good enough” on a regular basis. To see a series put forth the messy parts of being a young adult, unformed and ambivalent, is pretty revolutionary.&#8221; </p>
<p>I do admit this is NOT a show for everyone. My husband, for example, finds it uncomfortable to watch and overly dramatic. I have a few girlfriends who think it&#8217;s a bit too &#8220;raunchy.&#8221;<br />
However, what it does provide is a FRESH perspective. I was a huge fan of Sex and the City for it&#8217;s fun, glamour and focus on both romantic and female friendship. But as a 30 year-old woman who has lived and worked in NY I think Girls is tapping into realism regarding the common female plight few if any other shows have.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/for-the-love-of-girls/#comment-91110</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece on Feministing that speaks further to my commentary - http://feministing.com/2013/01/23/why-im-not-looking-for-the-missing-black-folks-on-hbos-girls/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece on Feministing that speaks further to my commentary &#8211; <a href="http://feministing.com/2013/01/23/why-im-not-looking-for-the-missing-black-folks-on-hbos-girls/" rel="nofollow">http://feministing.com/2013/01/23/why-im-not-looking-for-the-missing-black-folks-on-hbos-girls/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/for-the-love-of-girls/#comment-87319</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show is indisputably about white, straight privileged twenty-somethings and it does a horrible job of portraying any sort of diversity. The only people of color we see (save for extras, or for domestic worker portrayals in the scene where one of the characters is working as a nanny) is nearly nil. It is very clear that the show exists and thrives because it appeals to a very specific sliver of the population – few of who are marginalized and most of which continue to show the class and power discrepancy still evident in our social, cultural and political structures – so that is the narrative that gets represented. The show itself is on HBO, and censorship aside, it’s a premium television network that one must pay to receive. The show was also tremendously hyped prior to its premiere. I was mostly insulated from that and am more of a nonconformist, having a tendency to eschew anything zeitgeisty or mainstream. I did not expect to like the show – I thought it would be narcissistic and too hipster for me (and sometimes it is!) But the tenderness and vulnerability of some of the characters won me over. That being said, while I like it and sincerely believe it gives us a lot of positive, I also agree that it exposes some of the most problematic elements of the limited scope of stories we are given on screen.

Dunham has responded to her critics by basically saying that she wrote what she knows and that she believes her experience to be representative of her. In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air, you can actually hear her tiptoeing around the question when she is asked about the lack of diversity shown on screen. She says she never meant to alienate anyone and thinks it is important to acknowledge and respond to this criticism. She previously said she was going to be addressing the whitewashing (not specifically stated, but implied) which has since amounted to one, African America role introduced by Donald Glover as a guy Hannah is seeing/not seeing in the 2nd season premiere. One character of color does not a balanced cast make. 

I was disheartened by this non-response. I wish that she would have acknowledged the whitewashing in a less roundabout way that brought something new to the conversation, possibly addressing that a disproportionate number of stories generated mostly by those in power are what gets pushed through and reflected in our culture. I think the first step to challenging power structures is to acknowledge it. So many of us unwittingly benefit from the system of privilege in this country that puts white, middle to upper class males (and by extension, to a degree, females) in advantageous positions simply because of our biology or the sociocultural and economic demographic we were born into. I firmly believe that recognizing privilege and social injustice, especially those who benefit from it – is a huge step in changing the dynamic. People who do fall into positions of power should be using the opportunity to change the conversation and question mainstream narratives. I wish that Dunham could use her voice to talk about why we’re still egregiously lacking in diversity and why our pop culture is still unrepresentative of the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show is indisputably about white, straight privileged twenty-somethings and it does a horrible job of portraying any sort of diversity. The only people of color we see (save for extras, or for domestic worker portrayals in the scene where one of the characters is working as a nanny) is nearly nil. It is very clear that the show exists and thrives because it appeals to a very specific sliver of the population – few of who are marginalized and most of which continue to show the class and power discrepancy still evident in our social, cultural and political structures – so that is the narrative that gets represented. The show itself is on HBO, and censorship aside, it’s a premium television network that one must pay to receive. The show was also tremendously hyped prior to its premiere. I was mostly insulated from that and am more of a nonconformist, having a tendency to eschew anything zeitgeisty or mainstream. I did not expect to like the show – I thought it would be narcissistic and too hipster for me (and sometimes it is!) But the tenderness and vulnerability of some of the characters won me over. That being said, while I like it and sincerely believe it gives us a lot of positive, I also agree that it exposes some of the most problematic elements of the limited scope of stories we are given on screen.</p>
<p>Dunham has responded to her critics by basically saying that she wrote what she knows and that she believes her experience to be representative of her. In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air, you can actually hear her tiptoeing around the question when she is asked about the lack of diversity shown on screen. She says she never meant to alienate anyone and thinks it is important to acknowledge and respond to this criticism. She previously said she was going to be addressing the whitewashing (not specifically stated, but implied) which has since amounted to one, African America role introduced by Donald Glover as a guy Hannah is seeing/not seeing in the 2nd season premiere. One character of color does not a balanced cast make. </p>
<p>I was disheartened by this non-response. I wish that she would have acknowledged the whitewashing in a less roundabout way that brought something new to the conversation, possibly addressing that a disproportionate number of stories generated mostly by those in power are what gets pushed through and reflected in our culture. I think the first step to challenging power structures is to acknowledge it. So many of us unwittingly benefit from the system of privilege in this country that puts white, middle to upper class males (and by extension, to a degree, females) in advantageous positions simply because of our biology or the sociocultural and economic demographic we were born into. I firmly believe that recognizing privilege and social injustice, especially those who benefit from it – is a huge step in changing the dynamic. People who do fall into positions of power should be using the opportunity to change the conversation and question mainstream narratives. I wish that Dunham could use her voice to talk about why we’re still egregiously lacking in diversity and why our pop culture is still unrepresentative of the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/for-the-love-of-girls/#comment-86949</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the show at all, but before reading this blog, I had literally ONLY heard bad things about how white-washed the show is.

While I definitely appreciate all of the things this piece points out (body image stuff, awkward—realistic—sex scenes, etc.), it&#039;s BEYOND time for shows like this to be showing greater diversity. 

There is a lot of talk about race and class representations in the show. I&#039;m curious—has Dunham herself commented on these critiques? What does she have to say? 

As I said before, I haven&#039;t seen the show at all, but considering how progressive it seems in these other realms, regarding sex and nudity and body positivity, and relationships, I&#039;m surprised that it is lacking so much in race and class diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the show at all, but before reading this blog, I had literally ONLY heard bad things about how white-washed the show is.</p>
<p>While I definitely appreciate all of the things this piece points out (body image stuff, awkward—realistic—sex scenes, etc.), it&#8217;s BEYOND time for shows like this to be showing greater diversity. </p>
<p>There is a lot of talk about race and class representations in the show. I&#8217;m curious—has Dunham herself commented on these critiques? What does she have to say? </p>
<p>As I said before, I haven&#8217;t seen the show at all, but considering how progressive it seems in these other realms, regarding sex and nudity and body positivity, and relationships, I&#8217;m surprised that it is lacking so much in race and class diversity.</p>
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		<title>By: ChironsGate</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/for-the-love-of-girls/#comment-86893</link>
		<dc:creator>ChironsGate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a twenty-something woman myself and I have a vastly different opinion of Girls. 

The amount of white washing that the show has is beyond problematic. And every time I see Girls I want to scream at the TV &quot;This is not me! We are better than this!&quot;

And we can be.

But the part that turns me off the most is Lena Dunham&#039;s dismissal of other people&#039;s lives and narratives. In an interview with Time Magazine, I really with I could go look up the article right now, Lena Dunham did claim to be speaking for the women of her generation. Specifically through the show Girls.

Well, it does not speak to me and it will never speak for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a twenty-something woman myself and I have a vastly different opinion of Girls. </p>
<p>The amount of white washing that the show has is beyond problematic. And every time I see Girls I want to scream at the TV &#8220;This is not me! We are better than this!&#8221;</p>
<p>And we can be.</p>
<p>But the part that turns me off the most is Lena Dunham&#8217;s dismissal of other people&#8217;s lives and narratives. In an interview with Time Magazine, I really with I could go look up the article right now, Lena Dunham did claim to be speaking for the women of her generation. Specifically through the show Girls.</p>
<p>Well, it does not speak to me and it will never speak for me.</p>
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