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	<title>Comments on: A damsel in progress: analyzing BioShock Infinite’s Elizabeth</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-145024</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony--

Thanks for your comment! I like that you pointed out the fact that this game is a step forward for &quot;healthy human relationships&quot;. I totally agree.

I laughed at your suggestion that the player should be able to call Elizabeth out on her excessive cleavage. It definitely was distracting, even for me as a female, and certainly caused some degree of sexualization. I can&#039;t believe Ken Levine wouldn&#039;t have realized this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment! I like that you pointed out the fact that this game is a step forward for &#8220;healthy human relationships&#8221;. I totally agree.</p>
<p>I laughed at your suggestion that the player should be able to call Elizabeth out on her excessive cleavage. It definitely was distracting, even for me as a female, and certainly caused some degree of sexualization. I can&#8217;t believe Ken Levine wouldn&#8217;t have realized this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-145020</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha thanks john. :P she really was the worst. and if you ever accidentally put her down (because apparently she couldn&#039;t WALK) she would get lost in jabu jabu&#039;s belly again. such a pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha thanks john. <img src='http://www.about-face.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  she really was the worst. and if you ever accidentally put her down (because apparently she couldn&#8217;t WALK) she would get lost in jabu jabu&#8217;s belly again. such a pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony G</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-141763</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 07:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The game is certainly a step forward in promoting healthy human relationships.  However, as one reviewer suggests, Elizabeth is very much a &lt;i&gt;superwoman&lt;/i&gt;, and lacks the vulnerabilities typical of ordinary human beings of all genders 

As a male, I &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; tend to be distracted by Elizabeth&#039;s cleavage.  (Perhaps I was breastmilk-deprived?)  Amongst other future developments, the player could be allowed to make some personal requests of Elizabeth, such as &quot;&lt;i&gt;cover your boobs, I can&#039;t concentrate!&lt;/i&gt;&quot; (to which she might respond with random banter).  I&#039;m implying that the game might have accidental sexual overtones, which should be addressed, preferably with humour.

Nice to think that almost exactly half of the players are female and half are male.  And that you, Sarah, should have a long career ahead.  I think there&#039;s hope for the future after all!
---  Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game is certainly a step forward in promoting healthy human relationships.  However, as one reviewer suggests, Elizabeth is very much a <i>superwoman</i>, and lacks the vulnerabilities typical of ordinary human beings of all genders </p>
<p>As a male, I <b><i>would</i></b> tend to be distracted by Elizabeth&#8217;s cleavage.  (Perhaps I was breastmilk-deprived?)  Amongst other future developments, the player could be allowed to make some personal requests of Elizabeth, such as &#8220;<i>cover your boobs, I can&#8217;t concentrate!</i>&#8221; (to which she might respond with random banter).  I&#8217;m implying that the game might have accidental sexual overtones, which should be addressed, preferably with humour.</p>
<p>Nice to think that almost exactly half of the players are female and half are male.  And that you, Sarah, should have a long career ahead.  I think there&#8217;s hope for the future after all!<br />
&#8212;  Tony</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-140842</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That zora princess set women back nearly 50 years with her bimbo antics...I&#039;m glad you called her out on her bullshit :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That zora princess set women back nearly 50 years with her bimbo antics&#8230;I&#8217;m glad you called her out on her bullshit :p</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-140721</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ells-

I love creating female characters! Dragon Age is one of my favorites. But I&#039;m not giving up hope that the majority of games will one day feature this option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ells-</p>
<p>I love creating female characters! Dragon Age is one of my favorites. But I&#8217;m not giving up hope that the majority of games will one day feature this option.</p>
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		<title>By: Ells</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-140482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 08:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Create a female pc instead of focussing on npcs.  Problem solved, the female pc character can be just exactly as badass or  not, as you&#039;d like.  I suggest a sith sorcerer in swtor, or a night elf death knight in wow. Or, if you want a more decision-making rpg, play Dragon Age Origins and be a human noble.  Problem solved. Or, shall I say &quot;made-up problem, solved&quot;. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Create a female pc instead of focussing on npcs.  Problem solved, the female pc character can be just exactly as badass or  not, as you&#8217;d like.  I suggest a sith sorcerer in swtor, or a night elf death knight in wow. Or, if you want a more decision-making rpg, play Dragon Age Origins and be a human noble.  Problem solved. Or, shall I say &#8220;made-up problem, solved&#8221;. <img src='http://www.about-face.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-139820</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tanner!

I have not played Resident Evil or Black Ops 2, but I have played Tomb Raider and in fact wrote a blog about how badass Lara Croft is: http://www.about-face.org/the-reinvention-of-girl-power-new-lara-croft-is-still-a-bad-ass-with-a-new-bra/#.UYPi-spfKjI

I am in no way saying that every female game character is a weak damsel...in fact I make the opposite point about Elizabeth! But it is still undeniably a very widely used trope. Zelda is largely captive and unable to save herself in the games, though she does help Link along the way. 

I will also say that just because a woman &quot;kicks butt&quot; in a game doesn&#039;t mean she is empowered. I talk about that in the Lara Croft blog.

Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tanner!</p>
<p>I have not played Resident Evil or Black Ops 2, but I have played Tomb Raider and in fact wrote a blog about how badass Lara Croft is: <a href="http://www.about-face.org/the-reinvention-of-girl-power-new-lara-croft-is-still-a-bad-ass-with-a-new-bra/#.UYPi-spfKjI" rel="nofollow">http://www.about-face.org/the-reinvention-of-girl-power-new-lara-croft-is-still-a-bad-ass-with-a-new-bra/#.UYPi-spfKjI</a></p>
<p>I am in no way saying that every female game character is a weak damsel&#8230;in fact I make the opposite point about Elizabeth! But it is still undeniably a very widely used trope. Zelda is largely captive and unable to save herself in the games, though she does help Link along the way. </p>
<p>I will also say that just because a woman &#8220;kicks butt&#8221; in a game doesn&#8217;t mean she is empowered. I talk about that in the Lara Croft blog.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-139816</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa! 

I totally agree that her outfit is a bit ridiculous and looks super uncomfortable. It&#039;s very odd that Levine wouldn&#039;t have seen how sexualized it is. But it&#039;s possible that it was a stylistic decision made by other developers to appease a certain &quot;Frat Boy&quot; demographic...you win some, you lose some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa! </p>
<p>I totally agree that her outfit is a bit ridiculous and looks super uncomfortable. It&#8217;s very odd that Levine wouldn&#8217;t have seen how sexualized it is. But it&#8217;s possible that it was a stylistic decision made by other developers to appease a certain &#8220;Frat Boy&#8221; demographic&#8230;you win some, you lose some.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Hansel</title>
		<link>http://www.about-face.org/a-damsel-in-progress-analyzing-bioshock-infinites-elizabeth/#comment-139814</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Claudia! 

Interesting thought. I do think that males respond just as well as females to a well developed female character. However, I have to disagree with your statement that this game is played by males. About 47% of gamers are female now! There are plenty of female gamers looking for characters they can relate with :) Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claudia! </p>
<p>Interesting thought. I do think that males respond just as well as females to a well developed female character. However, I have to disagree with your statement that this game is played by males. About 47% of gamers are female now! There are plenty of female gamers looking for characters they can relate with <img src='http://www.about-face.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, clearly you have not played resident evil, tomb raider, or black ops 2. Women kick butt there. And Zelda takes a flipping bow out and shoots Gannon so without her you couldn&#039;t beat the game, smart. One.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, clearly you have not played resident evil, tomb raider, or black ops 2. Women kick butt there. And Zelda takes a flipping bow out and shoots Gannon so without her you couldn&#8217;t beat the game, smart. One.</p>
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